tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post6767632389307106405..comments2023-04-03T08:38:47.532-05:00Comments on A New Testament Student: Studying Religion in a Public UniversityJosh McManawayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03503876183620206761noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-6023338363426304962008-09-02T20:56:00.000-05:002008-09-02T20:56:00.000-05:00I agree. Just as Islamic extremists are a long way...<I>I agree. Just as Islamic extremists are a long way from the heart of their own faith.</I><BR/><BR/>I suppose that's what I'm asking - is the heart of Islam really peace and kindness? <BR/><BR/><I>Are you equating the power of the church with the power of Christ?</I><BR/><BR/>No. Although, the Church's power comes directly from Christ. What good is a Kingdom without a King?<BR/><BR/><I>Indeed. How about women in ministry, for one :) Or Bibles translated into the language of the people? I'm a fan of religious freedom.</I><BR/><BR/>Both of those things existed before "ecclesial anarchy". Greek and Latin were the languages of the people for quite a long time and there were more than a few women involved from day one in ministry with Jesus.Josh McManawayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03503876183620206761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-26737247380333799082008-09-02T14:34:00.000-05:002008-09-02T14:34:00.000-05:00Also - a "fundamentalist" in Christianity should b...<I>Also - a "fundamentalist" in Christianity should be someone compelled to love the snot out of his brothers. People who act like jerks, scream on college campuses about the KJV Bible, bomb abortion clinics, etc, are a long way from the "fundamentals".</I><BR/><BR/>I agree. Just as Islamic extremists are a long way from the heart of their own faith.<BR/><BR/><I>And Christianity has had a governing body for 2000 years now - it doesn't cease to exist just because some people deny its power (is Christ's power nullified because certain peoples refuse to accept it? μη γενοιτο!).</I><BR/><BR/>Are you equating the power of the church with the power of Christ?<BR/><BR/><I>And I think we've seen the effects of ecclesial anarchy on the body of Christ.</I><BR/><BR/>Indeed. How about women in ministry, for one :) Or Bibles translated into the language of the people? I'm a fan of religious freedom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-23709110219986344062008-08-24T03:53:00.000-05:002008-08-24T03:53:00.000-05:00I agree with Scott and Pat. Some would say that 91...I agree with Scott and Pat. Some would say that 911 was a terrorist response to American aggression and domination during the past century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-70397467181474127402008-08-22T09:18:00.000-05:002008-08-22T09:18:00.000-05:00One more thing - I'm not trying to downplay the si...One more thing - I'm not trying to downplay the significance of the Crusades in Muslim culture. I really am just saying that I think we should be able to discuss 9/11 apart from the Crusades because, as historical events go, they're very very different. I also think that a lot of people are ill-informed concerning the Crusades. I think some great books on the issue are, "A Concise History of the Crusades" by Thomas F. Madden and, "The Crusades" by Hilaire Belloc. <BR/><BR/>Also on governing bodies and heresy/orthodoxy - <BR/>http://ntstudent.blogspot.com/2007/12/heresy-and-church.htmlJosh McManawayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03503876183620206761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-3381489650690410142008-08-22T07:13:00.000-05:002008-08-22T07:13:00.000-05:00Pat,You bring up some good points - but I still th...Pat,<BR/><BR/>You bring up some good points - but I still think it's wrong to bring up the Crusades and compare it with 9/11. <BR/><BR/>New York has never been in Muslim possession nor was it ever considered a Holy Land. 9/11 wasn't a delayed military effort in response to American aggression a few hundred years previous to gain New York - it was a terrorist act inspired by various ideologies found in Islam. <BR/><BR/>Also - a "fundamentalist" in Christianity <I>should</I> be someone compelled to love the snot out of his brothers. People who act like jerks, scream on college campuses about the KJV Bible, bomb abortion clinics, etc, are a long way from the "fundamentals". <BR/><BR/>And Christianity has had a governing body for 2000 years now - it doesn't cease to exist just because some people deny its power (is Christ's power nullified because certain peoples refuse to accept it? μη γενοιτο!). And I think we've seen the effects of ecclesial anarchy on the body of Christ. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for commenting!Josh McManawayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03503876183620206761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-17979378610757683782008-08-21T23:54:00.000-05:002008-08-21T23:54:00.000-05:00I second Scott's comment, the Crusades are part of...I second Scott's comment, the Crusades are part of the collective memory. The way that "Christian nation" of America attacks a Muslim country like Iraq, hoping to convert the country to its ideals, calls to mind obvious connections. <BR/><BR/>Also, I'm not sure calling these statements "MSNBC answers" is really fair. The statements do have validity. For example, wouldn't we call a Christian who bombs an abortion clinic an extremist? I would say the same for Christians who supported the preemptive war in Iraq. Both religions have their extremists and fundamentalists and just as I do not want to be associated with ours, I think it fair not to associate the whole of the Muslim world with theirs.<BR/><BR/>Also, Christians don't have a central governing body either--even though I know you crazy Romans think we do ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8899950699213696889.post-89501992040159215742008-08-21T14:48:00.000-05:002008-08-21T14:48:00.000-05:00The importance of the crusades is in the fact that...The importance of the crusades is in the fact that Muslims have not forgotten. It is part of the root of their perception of Christianity. In much the same way some Christians equate any opposition to being thrown to the lions by the Romans. A serious stretch but ingrained nonetheless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com